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		<title>By: aze</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>aze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aze</description>
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		<title>By: kazi tanvir ahsan</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>kazi tanvir ahsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your design is different from Matthew and easy to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your design is different from Matthew and easy to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: kazi tanvir ahsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kazi tanvir ahsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the Matthew&#039;s presentation as well but you have your originality and different from Matthew.Cheers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the Matthew&#8217;s presentation as well but you have your originality and different from Matthew.Cheers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-200&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-200&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alexander Ilyin&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
          Have you seen Ta-da Lists by 37Signals? Their application is almost identical to the logic.
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<strong><a href="#comment-200" rel="nofollow">Alexander Ilyin</a> :</strong><br />
          Have you seen Ta-da Lists by 37Signals? Their application is almost identical to the logic.
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		<title>By: Patrick B</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why creating a form procedurally in the controller is &quot;horrid.&quot; I could take this statement a number of ways, and would like to know exactly what you have in mind. 

I would agree that constructing a form by adding all the elements and validators in the controller is misplaced, but I&#039;m not sure why calling $form = new My_Form() in the controller is terrible.

Putting the form&#039;s processing logic in the form class, in a &quot;process()&quot;, method is also a nice idea. That way it will be there for any client. 

But having the model know about the form seems convoluted at best. Models are not supposed to know about views. What&#039;s the benefit of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why creating a form procedurally in the controller is &#8220;horrid.&#8221; I could take this statement a number of ways, and would like to know exactly what you have in mind. </p>
<p>I would agree that constructing a form by adding all the elements and validators in the controller is misplaced, but I&#8217;m not sure why calling $form = new My_Form() in the controller is terrible.</p>
<p>Putting the form&#8217;s processing logic in the form class, in a &#8220;process()&#8221;, method is also a nice idea. That way it will be there for any client. </p>
<p>But having the model know about the form seems convoluted at best. Models are not supposed to know about views. What&#8217;s the benefit of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Riki Risnandar</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>Riki Risnandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice tutorial, thanks. i hope its more simpler to create crud in zend framework</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice tutorial, thanks. i hope its more simpler to create crud in zend framework</p>
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		<title>By: saurabh</title>
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		<dc:creator>saurabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, simply superb...

I am a big fan of Matthew, his comments/posts are highly knowledgable. But i must confess your method beats Matthew&#039;s all ends up.

Trulay amazing. A perfect example of CRUD using Zend Framewokrk. Must be made a part of ZF Manutal.</description>
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<p>I am a big fan of Matthew, his comments/posts are highly knowledgable. But i must confess your method beats Matthew&#8217;s all ends up.</p>
<p>Trulay amazing. A perfect example of CRUD using Zend Framewokrk. Must be made a part of ZF Manutal.</p>
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