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	<title>Comments on: Creating simple, extendible CRUD, using Zend Framework</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick B</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why creating a form procedurally in the controller is &quot;horrid.&quot; I could take this statement a number of ways, and would like to know exactly what you have in mind. 

I would agree that constructing a form by adding all the elements and validators in the controller is misplaced, but I&#039;m not sure why calling $form = new My_Form() in the controller is terrible.

Putting the form&#039;s processing logic in the form class, in a &quot;process()&quot;, method is also a nice idea. That way it will be there for any client. 

But having the model know about the form seems convoluted at best. Models are not supposed to know about views. What&#039;s the benefit of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why creating a form procedurally in the controller is &#8220;horrid.&#8221; I could take this statement a number of ways, and would like to know exactly what you have in mind. </p>
<p>I would agree that constructing a form by adding all the elements and validators in the controller is misplaced, but I&#8217;m not sure why calling $form = new My_Form() in the controller is terrible.</p>
<p>Putting the form&#8217;s processing logic in the form class, in a &#8220;process()&#8221;, method is also a nice idea. That way it will be there for any client. </p>
<p>But having the model know about the form seems convoluted at best. Models are not supposed to know about views. What&#8217;s the benefit of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Riki Risnandar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riki Risnandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice tutorial, thanks. i hope its more simpler to create crud in zend framework</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice tutorial, thanks. i hope its more simpler to create crud in zend framework</p>
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		<title>By: saurabh</title>
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		<dc:creator>saurabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, simply superb...

I am a big fan of Matthew, his comments/posts are highly knowledgable. But i must confess your method beats Matthew&#039;s all ends up.

Trulay amazing. A perfect example of CRUD using Zend Framewokrk. Must be made a part of ZF Manutal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, simply superb&#8230;</p>
<p>I am a big fan of Matthew, his comments/posts are highly knowledgable. But i must confess your method beats Matthew&#8217;s all ends up.</p>
<p>Trulay amazing. A perfect example of CRUD using Zend Framewokrk. Must be made a part of ZF Manutal.</p>
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		<title>By: Open source php framework, light, secure and higher learning curve &#8211; Zend &#124; GuiDesigner</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Open source php framework, light, secure and higher learning curve &#8211; Zend &#124; GuiDesigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 7 Secure, Lightweight, and Easy to Use PHP Frameworks &#171; qeqnes &#124; Designing. jQuery, Ajax, PHP, MySQL and Templates</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Secure, Lightweight, and Easy to Use PHP Frameworks &#171; qeqnes &#124; Designing. jQuery, Ajax, PHP, MySQL and Templates</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 7 Secure, Lightweight, and Easy to Use PHP Frameworks &#124; DevSnippets</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Secure, Lightweight, and Easy to Use PHP Frameworks &#124; DevSnippets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dilo</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post Ryan!  I&#039;m also new to zf so am reading posts trying to catch it  ;). Would like to know (if possible) your feedback about integrating your proposal with Doctrine and any clue on how to do it. Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post Ryan!  I&#8217;m also new to zf so am reading posts trying to catch it  <img src='http://www.rmauger.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Would like to know (if possible) your feedback about integrating your proposal with Doctrine and any clue on how to do it. Thanks in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Mauger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Mauger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, don&#039;t blame me, blame wordpress.
Though really, I don&#039;t care if you post with a fake or nonsense name, or put up an invalid link or email address, so validation would be a little pointless.
I would go and do a bit of hacking, but I&#039;d end up rewriting the whole system, as I really wouldnt be happy working with the wordpress codebase. So until I have time to finish my own blog software, this will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t blame me, blame wordpress.<br />
Though really, I don&#8217;t care if you post with a fake or nonsense name, or put up an invalid link or email address, so validation would be a little pointless.<br />
I would go and do a bit of hacking, but I&#8217;d end up rewriting the whole system, as I really wouldnt be happy working with the wordpress codebase. So until I have time to finish my own blog software, this will do.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your comment form doesn&#039;t have any validation?.... Its strange that great brains like you simply miss these things!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your comment form doesn&#8217;t have any validation?&#8230;. Its strange that great brains like you simply miss these things!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.rmauger.co.uk/2009/06/creating-simple-extendible-crud-using-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the post by Matthew Weierophinney that he is talking about is:
http://weierophinney.net/matthew/archives/200-Using-Zend_Form-in-Your-Models.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the post by Matthew Weierophinney that he is talking about is:<br />
<a href="http://weierophinney.net/matthew/archives/200-Using-Zend_Form-in-Your-Models.html" rel="nofollow">http://weierophinney.net/matthew/archives/200-Using-Zend_Form-in-Your-Models.html</a></p>
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